Independent Nationalism

DVNF is currently suffering from server overload, this will cause a SQL Error, meaning that access to the forum is extremely limited, we do not know presently whether this is due to just traffic or in fact a cyber attack, please bear with us. 

Regrettably the list is out, one can only hope it doesn’t cause problems for members and affiliates on the list, we are constantly updated regarding leftist activity and that of others, perhaps one day we may find that one smidgeon of information that can set the ball rolling. Sites such as proximity search present minimum danger, given that the list has been torrented and highlighted by national newspapers, I’m afraid that there is just no way of re-gaining the information. I am hearing small voices that inform me, that perhaps this is a more professional job than first supposed, certainly it puts off potential new members, although for those on the list it may act to galvanise them, an attitude of, “oh well they know my name now, I’ve nothing to lose”. Currently I know not what to believe, I am dismayed at Mr Griffins attitude and that of some supporters however, that in itself is no reason to place him or the leadership under suspicion. 

Certainly I do not believe that the Decembrists caused this leak, at least knowingly, it is a foolhardy act and certainly the perpetrators would be marked, the infiltrator scenario can and does suggest state and I am more inclined to lean in this direction, Anti-fascists, although a tool of the state are a blunt tool, their worth is in intimidation, be it by protests or sometimes quite rarely, by physical violence. Watching the scenario, I am led to the one conclusion I can make, state involvement, yet even this I am unsure about, given that the state has an array of tools at their disposal, perhaps they thought to stem the growth of the party, strike fear into the membership and indeed potential joiners however, this supposition falls flat, given that BNP support is mostly shown by voting and this action does not attack that. 

Yet still I am drawn to the state hypothesise, perhaps this is merely another tool utilised when needed, such as to cripple membership and morale before the European elections, a flimsy argument at best. The main problem I belief for the state was and is the take up rate of right-wing thinking within C2 working class communities, that is to say the skilled working class, also C1 social classes, the lower middle class such as junior managerial workers and administrative/professionals who were also showing acute signs of rightists leanings, this in turn had led to a slight increase in B class social grades showing interest. 

Should rightist thinking infuse such individuals then the battle is won, no amount of state intervention can then prevail, the only recourse is tyranny, state oppression, this of course costs money, upsets the balance of economic power and sets a precedent for other countries, this therefore cannot be permitted. So therefore the state must use perhaps its most potent weapon, the fear of a loss of livelihood, for B,C1,C2 and D classes such a condition is seen as a calamity and such individuals are prone to think family first above and beyond people, therefore if the classifications mentioned above could be sent running in fear away from rightist politics then the job is done. 

Certainly regardless of BNP propaganda it is unlikely that the leak of this list has prompted many new membership enquiries, although I should imagine they beg to differ, at a stroke this action seals the common ground that was developing between the D, C2, social classes and those above them. Now it is rather like the private school child watching the state school child walk to school bare-footed ,feeling empathy and yet unable or unwilling to help, for fear of detriment to themselves. 

Whoever has leaked this list, be it the BNP themselves, disgruntled ex-members, the state, Anti-fascists/leftists, whoever have, at least for now placed a nail in nationalisms coffin, at least here in the UK. Timed with the election of Mr Obama in the states, the proposal to limit funds to elected parties in Germany, the death of Mr Haider then it is easy to determine that the right is in dire straits. 

We may disagree with BNP direction however, this leak is an attack upon nationalism generally, therefore we must show solidarity with “outed” members and until intelligence or commonsense tells us differently, support both the rank and file and indeed the leadership, Ideological differences aside we are all nationalists. UOIN 

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British multiculturalism has left a "terrible" legacy which has allowed extremists to flourish, shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve has warned.

A type of "cultural despair" has led "long-term inhabitants" and newer arrivals to feel alienated and unsure of UK values, he told the Guardian.

Mr Grieve, speaking on the eve of the Conservative Party conference, argued this had led to support for extremism.

He also warned against downplaying Britain's Christian heritage.

Mr Grieve told the Guardian: "We've actually done something terrible to ourselves in Britain.

"In the name of trying to prepare people for some new multicultural society we've encouraged people, particularly the sort of long-term inhabitants, to say 'well your cultural background isn't really very important'."

'Huge damage'

The vacuum created by multiculturalism has encouraged support for extremists on both sides, he argues.

The shadow home secretary went on to say multiculturalism was inspired by the "understandable" desire to make people feel comfortable.

But he added: "The idea behind it was [to] create the melting pot. But the melting pot needs the ingredients of people's confidence in themselves as they come together. And if it isn't there I think we've done ourselves huge damage."

Mr Grieve also said the part played by Christianity in Britain should not be ignored.

"The role of Christianity is really rather important. It can't just be magicked out of the script. It colours many of the fundamental viewpoints of British people, including many who've never been in a church."

'Outdated' policy

It is not the first time a Tory home secretary has spoken out against multiculturalism.

In 2005, the then shadow home secretary David Davis called on the government to scrap the "outdated" policy, saying that allowing people of different cultures to settle without integrating let the "perverted values of suicide bombers" take root.

Mr Davis said he agreed with Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the then Commission for Racial Equality, who a year earlier argued multiculturalism belonged to a different era.

Mr Phillips said all citizens should "assert a core of Britishness". source

GANGS of Asian youths are tormenting elderly and disabled people in Staincliffe with foul-mouthed racist abuse.
Residents living in a cul-de-sac on the edge of Staincliffe Estate say they are at the end of their tether after months of abuse.
The youths, aged from about 15 upwards, start congregating in Manor Way, close to Manorfields Infants School, from 4.10pm and hang around for hours on end, often up to midnight.
The yobs hurl abuse at passers-by, spitting racist comments at the elderly residents - all of whom are in their 70s and 80s.
The gang also makes lewd suggestions to girls and young women and on Saturday mocked a disabled man and threatened to tip him out of his wheelchair. In the past street signs have been pulled down and bins overturned. Cars have also been vandalised.
Police have been repeatedly called out but residents say nothing gets done. Now the residents, most of whom are too afraid to speak out publicly, are fighting back.
Residents’ spokesman Tony Gott, 71, said old people shouldn’t have to put up with the abuse.
“It has gone too far,” he said. “People are at the end of their tether and don’t know where to turn.
“No one should have to live their lives in fear like this and when we go out to ask these youths to move on all we get is abuse.
“They called me a ‘fat, white bastard’ and the other day I was showered with a pile of bricks.
“We had the police up here the other day and they spoke to this gang but they denied everything and the police said there was nothing they could do.
“The police say ‘we’ve taken their names’ but all that is a slap on the wrist. It doesn’t stop them.”
Retired builder Mr Gott, who has four sons, 11 grandchildren and five great-grandchildren, has lived in the street for almost 15 years.
On Saturday teatime Mr Gott heard the youths hurling abuse at a disabled man in a wheelchair who lives further down the estate.
“They were wanting to have a fight with him so I went out and told them to stop picking on people in wheelchairs.
“All I got was abuse and that it was nothing to do with me. They threatened to turn the wheelchair over.
“The police think we are exaggerating but we are not. We are all poorly people up here and two of the residents have cancer. We just can’t go to bed and have a good night’s sleep anymore.”
The cul-de-sac is also a magnet for drug dealers and users who lurk in dark corners behind Manorfields school but it is the gangs that make residents most afraid.
“I think there should be a curfew to get them off the streets,” said Mr Gott. “Something has to be done.”
Insp Neil Money, of the Batley Neighbourhood Policing Team, said they were aware of reports of abuse and anti-social behaviour in Manor Way and patrols had been stepped up. Officers were also using new ‘head cam’ video cameras.
On Tuesday night four youths were picked up and taken home and their parents informed about their behaviour.
Five other youths were also spoken to in the Mount Pleasant area and warned about their behaviour.
Insp Money added: “We are working very closely with local schools, mosques, shopkeepers and our partner agencies in order to ensure that the quality of life for residents is improved. source

UOIN supports any nationalist initiative aimed at furthering the cause of true nationalism, it is for this reason that we support Dissenting Voices Nationalist Forum, much hard work went into the creation of the forum and its new incarnation, Dissenting Voices Nationalist ForumII, regrettably UK nationalists failed to support the initiative, preferring instead the heavily infiltrated Stormfront and other forums, it would seem, that nationalists prefer infighting and disunity, rather than attempts to create a movement for change. 

After much discussion the decision was taken to close, DVNFII, pending further review, discussions are in a stalemate, with some of us wishing DVNF to continue and others against, there seems no middle ground. For this reason we must open up the debate, with those that took a chance and joined the forum, we need to know whether members have any ideas with regard to its lack of success and whether, the senior administration of the forum made mistakes etc. 

Why “UOIN”, the Union of Independent Nationalists, is an idea, a place for non-aligned nationalists to discuss their ideas, here in the UK this is necessary as non-aligned nationalists have no place. We are caught between two extremes, the populism espoused by the British National Party or the infighting of the others, neither of which aids nationalism. UOIN is a movement for change, a change in nationalist fortunes; we seek a return to correct nationalism not for us the populist route, steeped in treachery as it is. Nationalism must at its very core be racialist, quite simply because a nation is its people, the BNP refuse to advocate racially conscious nationalism, preferring supposed political success to recognition of simple fact. This is the first thing, we also recognise the detrimental role of international finance in our countries fortunes, we contest both capitalism and Marxism and we recognise the fact, that Semitic peoples can never be considered European. We do not however, propagate hate, nationalism believes in the right of all races and creeds, to live freely within their country of origin, under this agreement only those of Caucasian descent may live within the countries of Europe. Moreover, we seek a return to protectionism, with regard to industry, finance and related matters, for this reason we fight globalisation, believing it destroys the futures of all our children, whilst raping the planets resources. 
Leftist thought and ideology, has led to the gravest of crimes against humanity, for this reason the left must be fought in whichever applicable way, we must with the gravest urgency throw off the shackles of political correctness or more correctly cultural Marxism. We must constantly strive to thwart the coming global government, utilising all stratagems to do so, we must unite all nationalists in this coming fight, for failure to do so means certain servitude and misery for those to come.